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new .mdl frames when you change your weapon

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:20 am
by KOLIAN_bel
I want to add new frames to my weapon, when i change to it.
Like when i click 6 appear grenade launcher and start frame "reloading"

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:30 pm
by frag.machine
Quake weapon models don't have reloading animations. Unfortunately, the entire game was rushed in a very unpolished way in many aspects, weapons animations and placement being one of this (according John Romero, weapons were not supposed to be placed in the bottom center of screen, and there should be some weapon changing animations, but all these little things were chopped off from the final todo list). So, you have the following alternatives:

1) creating new v_* models containing these additional frames; or

2) editing existing v_* models to add yourself the desired frames.

There is a very limited number of editors supporting the obsolete Quake 1 .mdl format. Personally, I use QuArK 4.07 to tweak and/or add new frames to existing models, but I won't advice you to do the same since it's a very limited mesh editor (you cannot copy/paste portions of the meshes, and it lacks a "free hand" view of the model). So, when I need one of these things I use StudioMDx. Most people here prefers to convert the model to .md2 and use another tools, that I can't unfortunately point to you since I don't use that.

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:30 pm
by Sajt
Well, some people actually do think qME is fairly competent :P

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 3:57 am
by frag.machine
Sajt wrote:Well, some people actually do think qME is fairly competent :P
I won't argue, I am just too lazy and so used to the QuArK + StudioMDx combo that I simply hated qME when I tried it. I was expecting FrikaC model editor to finally bring something that could motivate me to change, but looks like it won't happen after all :roll:

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:10 am
by Sajt
qME is great once you get used to it. Namely get used to no undo, no copy/paste/duplicate tools... :) And that ctrl-s is not save.

If you really need to you can import/export with Milkshape to duplicate stuff. However qME has the best vertex editing interface I've used, especially for (qME 3.1) only taking up one pane (instead of four with three 2D panes). And it has a decent front-back texture mapping utility although sometimes it's hard to keep the texcoords lined up symmetrically. And it has decent skeletal animation tools (the IK stuff seemed useless though), no weighting though.

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:54 am
by Urre
Aye, qme still has the best vertex editing available, real nice for low-poly models like the ones you have in quake :)

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:38 pm
by KOLIAN_bel
Well guy's...
We speak about new .mdl frames :D

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:51 pm
by leileilol
qme qme qme :(

/me wishes a blender mdl import/export script existed so we don't have to be confined to limited buggy outdated shareware

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:15 pm
by frag.machine
CheapAlert wrote:qme qme qme :(

/me wishes a blender mdl import/export script existed so we don't have to be confined to limited buggy outdated shareware
/me looks to FrikaC hoping to convince him to finish his legendary model editor :P

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:20 am
by FrikaC
MOM HE'S LOOKING AT ME AGAIN