If Quake Were Made Today

[scar3crow]

Brilliant video, thanks to Randy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1ZtBCpo0eU

[ajay]

That is properly brilliant. Especially like the final line.

[Spirit]

I am rather "meh" about it. The graphic options menu ruined it for me. I mean...



The rest was so-so. Not really representing Quake in a good or even accurate image in my opinion.

If you do sarcasm, you better do it perfect.

[revelator]

one word

shoulda used steam though hehe.

[frag.machine]

I am rather "meh" about it. The graphic options menu ruined it for me. I mean...



The rest was so-so. Not really representing Quake in a good or even accurate image in my opinion.

If you do sarcasm, you better do it perfect.

"My (probably futile) attempt on making a statement about the quality of shooters this generation."

But I agree, he forgot to mention cutscenes, and this is unacceptable.

The truth is, consoles ruined old school gaming.

[leileilol]

The truth is, shenmue and halo ruined old school gaming.

fixed
also,



forum image scaling FTW

[mh]

We've really got Half Life to blame for the sorry state of affairs. It brought the ultra-realistic shooter into vogue, and made "hide behind a box, peek out, shoot, duck back, repeat x 100, move to the next area" gameplay into what people want and expect.

[frag.machine]

We've really got Half Life to blame for the sorry state of affairs. It brought the ultra-realistic shooter into vogue, and made "hide behind a box, peek out, shoot, duck back, repeat x 100, move to the next area" gameplay into what people want and expect.

I rarely resorted to "hide-peek-shoot-hide" in HL1 and HL2. And I played both games all the way. Of course one can play like this, but then one can do the same in Quake (replace the "duck behind a box" with "hide behind a wall so the stupid monster AI can't reach me" and it's the same result).
In Half Life you can carry TONS of weapons and ammo (all without a backpack! In Doom you would need one).
In Half Life if you hide behind a box you won't regenerate. Actually, it's very likely the enemies will destroy it and then kill you.
Most weapons in Half Life simply don't and cannot exist IRL. Are laser guided RPG's "ultra-realistic" ? Or gravity guns ? maybe the Gauss cannons then ?
You see all of this crap of ironsights and obsession for exact replicas of AR-15 and AK-47 rifles and health regeneration in console FPS titles (Halo, CoD, Battlefield, Killzone, etc). Not in Half Life. So despite Valve had commit a good number of sins in Half Life (Awful model format ? No QuakeC for game logic ?! Damn you, Valve!), they actually are not guilty of the sorry state of the FPS nowadays. Blame Microsoft and Sony and all the "coach warriors" instead.

[leileilol]

remember when myst killed adventure games?

[revelator]

gauss cannons hmm not sure but railguns do actually exist, though i suspect the weight of these babies will bring even king kong to his knees. also prepare for unforeseen electric bills hehe.
theres plans to mount one on a guard ship in the near future who needs nukes with missiles that fly at mk7 and dont even need to contain explosives to wreak total carnage

cant say i blame valve for destroying pc gaming that blame i think is more correctly pointed at microsoft.
im no ms hater but in this case i think they hold the candle for a lot of what went wrong with the pc for a gaming platform. not all ofc.

[leileilol]

Also if you want something old to really blame for the cover system, blame Time Crisis.

[ajay]

As someone who enjoys playing Halo (well at least the first one and ODST) and even Half Life 2 (well mainly episode 2) I think the fault, obviously, doesn't lie with a game or games - or even individual developers. There should be room it what is fairly vast market for FPS to have multiple types of them; 'realistic' sci-fi, open-world, rpg-lite ones etc. The fact there isn't is down to 1) The huge fan base that COD and Halo have (many players of both who might not have played any other FPS) which means publishers are afraid to take a risk and just endlessly want to copy what has worked. I think also the current generation of games are so expensive to make, take so long (even the yearly COD update, in man hours) to make, that the investment a developer has to make precludes them from taking a risk.
Ultimately console gamers, Halo, Gears of War or anything else didn't kill the FPS as we knew and loved it - the market and market pressures did.

[goldenboy]

I just don't buy the "new games suck" thing.

[revelator]

ofcourse not well some do ... but nothing new here.

most new games i enjoy, besides a few who go out of there way to control the environment (invisible walls to avoid gamers falling through the map is ok, but things like not being allowed to jump over or crawl under an obstacle you can otherwise just go around is pushing it) if i want to get hurt its my damn right

I still like pure action games but the more story driven ones have kinda grown on me

[frag.machine]

I just don't buy the "new games suck" thing.

Not all new games suck. Actually, there's a good number of them that are pretty cool. I really liked a lot all Rage's gameplay footage I saw, I'm just waiting for the next Steam fire sale to check it out. The next Serious Sam looks gorgeous and fun like hell. But console FPS's are just... Meh.