What is the deal with Valve?

daemonicky · Post by **daemonicky** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:39 pm

Valve seems to be disliked there, what is the deal with Valve?

CocoT · Post by **CocoT** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:26 pm

daemonicky wrote:Valve seems to be disliked there, what is the deal with Valve?

Valve is disliked here? I don't think it's the opinion of the majority of people here, but I might be wrong...

daemonicky · Post by **daemonicky** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:01 pm

CocoT wrote:
daemonicky wrote:Valve seems to be disliked there, what is the deal with Valve?
Valve is disliked here? I don't think it's the opinion of the majority of people here, but I might be wrong...

I apologize for sounding too general. Some people there dislike Valve and I have seen several jokes about them. I think these people are very skilled so I guess they know what they are saying.

revelator · Post by **revelator** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:41 pm

nothing against valve (besides keeping me wait forever for episode 3)

hehe no id rather see something totally awesome then them rushing the game

avirox · Post by **avirox** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:06 pm

Same, nothing against Valve here.. they continue to make great quake mods \o/

frag.machine · Post by **frag.machine** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:40 am

avirox wrote:Same, nothing against Valve here.. they continue to make great quake mods \o/

lol

Actually, I like a lot Valve work. But yeah, HL3/Ep3/whatever is about to steal DNF hours concurs title of vaporware.

Spike · Post by **Spike** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:32 am

Gabe used to work for microsoft. that makes the entire company evile! EVILE I TELL THEE!!!

seriously though, valve are much better than some companies.

I just don't like steam's start-at-boot-and-steal-all-ram-even-when-you-want-to-play-other-peoples-games behaviour, though this dislike dates back to when it was really pretty much for halflife only, and can be reconfigured, but mneh.

I'd like em more if they released a linux version of steam due to the effects that might have on other games companies, even if the first version of it was aimed more for configuring private dedicated servers, but I really doubt that will happen. :)

behind_you · Post by **behind_you** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:55 am

daemonicky wrote:Valve seems to be disliked there, what is the deal with Valve?

Maybe it's all their restrictions on using their content. I don't understand why people get pissed at that. Everyone has restrictions.

Personally I love valve because of Half-Life

mh · Post by mh » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:30 pm

Nothing deeply against Valve themselves, but I do find HL-style gameplay intensely boring and have a dislike for the extent of the influence that has had on the FPS genre. behind_you nailed it with the licensing restrictions part as well (especially when it comes to tools) although that's not too big a deal as HL formats don't go nearly far enough in solving the worst problems of Q1 formats, and as a commercial entity they're perfectly entitled to protect their IP in this way if they so wish (they sure don't owe me anything).

Steam sucks but that's the business/distribution model they're using. No drama there, these things always come in cycles and sooner or later something different is going to take over the market.

Valve/HL fanbois can be shockingly dim sometimes, but that's true of fanbois all over the world. No big deal either.

So no, Valve are just a successful company who have hit a gameplay style and distribution model that is wildly successful but not to my personal taste. That's all just a bit "meh"; Guinness make a beer that's not to my personal taste either but I neither hate them nor feel the need to pursue an internet vendetta against them for it.

Nahuel · Post by **Nahuel** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:35 pm

The best game of valve

Post by **FrikaC** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:51 pm

Oh god the texture choices. *gouges out eyes*

Post by **scar3crow** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:54 am

I'm struggling to read the title of this thread without using the voice of Jerry Seinfeld.

Post by **Error** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:17 am

nothing was ever good about DMC.

dreadlorde · Post by **dreadlorde** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:08 pm

What was the point of dmc? Quake still exists so...yeah. I don't get it.

mankrip · Post by **mankrip** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:15 am

Back then when Half-Life was released, there were a lot of HL versus Quake fanboyism everywhere. People used to compare both games a lot, so there was a lot of criticism on both sides.

The same happened after Counterstrike came out for Half-Life. Some people hated it, while its fanboys hated Quake-style multiplayer games instead.

Also, there's Valve's denial of using any Quake code in Half-Life 2, which IIRC was proven to be not true.

People also used to compare Half-Life 2 and Doom 3 a lot, since both games were being developed at the same time, and this also enforced fanboyism on both sides.

Overall, it's just a cultural thing. The same happens between Marvel and DC, Nintendo and Sega, and so on. Sometimes it may be something fun to joke about, and this doesn't mean we actually dislike either company/game/whatever.

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