CS for Quake1?

[DarkSnow]

Been working lately on (besides pe) a mod for Q1 that is intended to be as close to CounterStrike as possible.

I know that many hates the idea, and hates me for trying to actualy do it, but i think its cool anyway.


So far i have completed:
* Locational damage
* Shooting through walls
* Trace_Line based shooting
* Walk sound based on type of surface
* Hit sound based on type of surface
* When killed, 1/3 of the time you may spasm and bleed on the ground for 8 seconds before perm dead
* Weapons similar to counter-strike (shotgun, mp5 etc)

Also i have created a map >very< similar to cs -> de_aztec - in progress

I am right now at my laptop so i dont have any screenshots or anything but if anyone have any suggestions do tell me

[Spirit]

Since many engines can load cs (halflife) maps, this sounds like a interesting idea to me

[scar3crow]

it will never be CS until you have ugly textures, and bots calling me a "n00bz fagz0rz!!!!!eleven" because i shot them in the head.

oh, and completely punishing gameplay. dont want it to be fun.


though i do enjoy modern weapons in games.

[DarkSnow]

Textures etc will be far better then what the hl-classic engine can muster. And i will try to customize bots to play a bit more tactical then what they are used to.

About the gameplay. I were thinking about adding the common "plant / defuse bomb" game-mode to the custom map, but i am also thinking about adding a second option that would draw the mod more to the s.w.a.t style of gaming.

You have:
* a team leader who directs what the people should do,
* a scout that has mirrors, optical cameras to look through doors and can pick doorlocks and uses balistical shield
* a rear guard with shotgun
* and 2 assaulters with automatic machine guns

... that makes up a single element. And the opposing force have on the map start about half a minute to place explosive traps, relocate hostages and place themselves on strategical places to deny the tactical team entry to the complex.

Even, i were thinking about adding to this that the leader of the oppising force cell may aquire in the beginning of the round a throw-phone that directs to the CNT (Crisis and Negotiations Team). So, The final scores will consist not on fraggs but on:

For CT:
How many opposing players
How many arrests
How many traps deffused
How many hostages rescued
The lesser time to win the level - the more final score added

And minus score for:
Team-mate injured / Killed
Hostage injured / Killed
Terrorist killed

For TF:
The more time taken to deflect assault team - the more final score
How many officers injured / killed
How much money aquired through CNT

And minus score for:
Team-mate injured / Killed
Hostage injured / killed


Imo i belive this gameplay could be as far enough from counter-strike to be "playable" as a q1 mod / not just a show-off that "dude, q1 can 'do' counter-strike aswell as half-life". Offcourse this is just something i have been thinking about and i am open for suggestions


Oh, and a last thing. I am missing good models for the mod. Anyone know of any nice modern-realism / tactical / "counter-strike alike" weapon / equipment models i may use? Or any free sound loops that could be of use?

[scar3crow]

that gameplay sounds a good bit better

simply because CS always seemed like a glorified (yet gloryless) team deathmatch... ignoring the actual objectives and just trying to kill off the other team

you could make the points subtracted for killing a terrorist dependant on how many were killed however
its a penalty if you kill 1 or 2, but if it hits 50% of the TF then it gets a lot weightier... otherwise a TF player could go "huh, they dont want to risk losing points, so theyre just going to try and avoid fire, they wont want to kill me" and basically kamikaze them

[Wazat]

That's great that you've made it this far. Yea, I've noticed the stigma against CS and all related mods, and frankly I love CS, so they can complain all they want and I won't change my mind.

I wish you good luck!

[leileilol]

Kools was working on one for MrGLQuake AGES ago, and my buddy Carni was working on OpenStrike.

[DarkSnow]

you could make the points subtracted for killing a terrorist dependant on how many were killed however
its a penalty if you kill 1 or 2, but if it hits 50% of the TF then it gets a lot weightier... otherwise a TF player could go "huh, they dont want to risk losing points, so theyre just going to try and avoid fire, they wont want to kill me" and basically kamikaze them

I were thinking about having it so, that the first person firing his weapon will cause the game to switch from tactical to dynamical.. Iow that when terrorist fires the s.w.a.t will storm in and try to breach.. However, if officers fires the first shot the TF team looses half score in penalty


Since i now am sitting at my stationary comp and have internet temporary i might aswell upload a screenshot from the de_aztec alike map. I think you'l recognize it

[DarkSnow]

Hm.. Having some trouble uploading images

[Wazat]

Yea, Inside3d's file attachment system is broken.

[Harb]

I made a CS map in Q1 format for someone doing a CS mod a while back... be damned if I can remember who it was for tho.

[DarkSnow]

Can anyone fix / find a download for the cs models on this page?
http://www.inside3d.com/qctut/cs-tut1.shtml
Have not seen em myself, but perhaps they would fit nicely in my mod since i need new models..
Edit
Nevermind, found it on 3d downloads site

And here is the screenshot i wanted to post earlier:
http://mathias_frendin.tripod.com/cmod.jpg

I made a CS map in Q1 format for someone doing a CS mod a while back... be damned if I can remember who it was for tho.

Perhaps Koolio? The only one (besides myself) i realy have seen some stuff from trying to make a counter-strike alike mod for q1.

[Wazat]

That map doesn't look too bad at all. Good luck to ya!

[DarkSnow]

That map doesn't look too bad at all. Good luck to ya!

Thnx