Mod Request - Mapper-friendly mod with darkplaces features

LordHavoc · Post by **LordHavoc** » Mon May 30, 2011 5:00 am

It would be really great if we got together as a community and devised an open source (bah Quoth, bah I say!) mapper-friendly mod to accommodate darkplaces features.

Example features I think it should have:

no gameplay changes
some aesthetic enhancements - gibbable corpses, etc.
breakable objects
physics objects if supported - fall back to MOVETYPE_NONE otherwise
monster spawners - maintain population, total spawn limit
APPEAR spawnflag - allows a monster to be triggered to make it teleport in, without a separate teleporter room
warpzonelib - divVerent's portals system
breakable light fixtures - a model entity that can be shot to destroy it and turn off the dlight

Other features could be added but must be non-gameplay-changing or optional if they are, like smarter monster navigation could be added, but needs a spawnflag, everything must be intentionally chosen or enabled by the level designer.

It would be preferable if the darkplaces features are correctly detected and fallbacks are provided - the mod working without darkplaces, as best it can.

Thoughts? Suggestions? Volunteers?

revelator · Post by **revelator** » Mon May 30, 2011 8:33 am

sounds good

ill gladly help if im able to, just take in mind i newer had any lessons in coding i learned what im able to do today by trial and error

for the physics part theres allready several free alternatives to havok like bullet, maybe a choice ?.

LordHavoc · Post by **LordHavoc** » Mon May 30, 2011 8:59 am

reckless wrote:for the physics part theres allready several free alternatives to havok like bullet, maybe a choice ?.

But DarkPlaces already has ODE physics if libode1.dll is present. (note: only compatible with double precision builds of ODE)

That said I keep hearing about glitches with it on Windows, it worked okay on Linux here, I probably need to take up the task of building it on each platform...

Also I do intend to add Bullet someday as an alternative.

toneddu2000 · Post by **toneddu2000** » Mon May 30, 2011 9:15 am

I declare myself as volunteer for anything graphic: models, textures and animations.
In this coders supremacy age, artists are not so important!

Always faithful to Dp, Always

revelator · Post by **revelator** » Mon May 30, 2011 10:35 am

i can provide windows builds of libraries/dll's needed (got my own crossbuild environment) hmm actually i think i got a windows version (mingw/msvc compatible) of bullet if you want something to start work with.

if you need anything else i have a huge database with 32/64 bit libraries for pretty much anything.

Nahuel · Post by **Nahuel** » Mon May 30, 2011 5:05 pm

LordHavoc wrote:It would be really great if we got together as a community and devised an open source (bah Quoth, bah I say!) mapper-friendly mod to accommodate darkplaces features

great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I regret being so noob and without being able to collaborate!!

Post by **scar3crow** » Tue May 31, 2011 1:03 am

Additional feature ideas:

Rotating brushes
Movable triggers (buttons in elevators for example)
Moving liquids (raising or lowering water/lava/slime level)
APPEAR spawnflag for items
misc_model
misc_sound

Ranger366 · Post by **Ranger366** » Tue May 31, 2011 4:53 am

Something like Spirit of Half-Life, but for Quake.
Awesome

Baker · Post by **Baker** » Tue May 31, 2011 4:59 am

[eh ... this post wasn't contributing anything constructive to the thread.]

revelator · Post by **revelator** » Tue May 31, 2011 8:15 am

im not exactly promoting myself as a modder for this project, just offering what help i can (if any).

but i hope some folks with deeper DP fu will step up

Post by **FrikaC** » Tue May 31, 2011 9:00 am

scar3crow wrote:Additional feature ideas:
Rotating brushes
Movable triggers (buttons in elevators for example)
Moving liquids (raising or lowering water/lava/slime level)
APPEAR spawnflag for items
misc_model
misc_sound

Reltest? or something like it?

Post by **scar3crow** » Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:52 am

Indeed, that looks very much like what I had in mind with most of my suggested additions.

I wonder how Hip/Rogue weather/environmental support would go with all of this? I'm talking the thunder storms and flashes of The Crypt, and the earthquakes of Elemental Fury I.

LordHavoc · Post by **LordHavoc** » Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:40 am

I've been informed that p0x made a mod ages ago called extras r4 which had some of this stuff (like elevators with buttons)... It would be good to take a look at its feature list as well.

qbism · Post by **qbism** » Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:14 pm

LordHavoc wrote:I've been informed that p0x made a mod ages ago called extras r4 which had some of this stuff (like elevators with buttons)... It would be good to take a look at its feature list as well.

All of the above, except APPEAR flag AFAIK(which requires engine mod?) Works best on engines with physics and rotating brush fixes.
Guessing func_water works best with engine traceline that can handle "in_func_water" for special sound effects and floating.

Post by **FrikaC** » Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:49 pm

I made a mod a long time ago, it began from Reltest, that had basically every mapper-centric feature I could think of - nearly everything from both mission packs, painkeep's mapping stuff and all the stuff from Custents. It was a monstrosity. I wouldn't mind doing it over as kind of a quick thing for Qexpo, but I obviously can't maintain it into the future. I can set up a public SVN for it though.

It was going to be for my single player episode...which got as far as 1 short intro map.

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