Best method to make make monsters move around in singeplayer

[SamUK]

Solitude has started adding singe player monsters. I've got two questions.

1) What is the best method to make monsters move around in quake. I want it to look more natural, instead of them moving zig-zaged.

2) There's a specific monster, that I want to be able to walk on walls (Not the ceiling) is that possible?

Thanks.

[Urre]

All of this is possible, and there's no best method. You'll really need to be more specific on what you're after. For example, do you want navigation, or just movement? To give a simple answer on #1, try mauvetogoal (NOTE: I don't mean movetogoal).

[SamUK]

Navigation, but I'd want to avoid the zig-zag effect often present with quake characters movement.

I'll give it a shot.

For number 2, it's just random movement, it's a parasite so it doesn't really move around with intelligently.

[ceriux]

why not just set its goal as the player?

[SamUK]

Because then they'll be still until they notice the player, which just wouldn't look good.

Also, it wouldn't work, as one monster tends to get scared if he see's others of his type die. When he gets' scared, he runs away from the player.

[ceriux]

why not code it to ignore that? (iv never seen it happen)

[SamUK]

To ignore what?

[ceriux]

other similar monsters dying or running away which ever.

[Chip]

I imagine a Left4Dead scene where monsters run towards the player describing a semi circle or a circle arc.

That would be nice, and scary.

[Team Xlink]

Solitude has started adding singe player monsters. I've got two questions.

1) What is the best method to make monsters move around in quake. I want it to look more natural, instead of them moving zig-zaged.

2) There's a specific monster, that I want to be able to walk on walls (Not the ceiling) is that possible?

Thanks.

For the first one, I am/have been doing some work on our AI and that is partly done.

For the second one, yes it is possible.

[Downsider]

As far as walking on walls, you can simply trace outwards and apply force toward the wall when the trace hits or set the origin against the wall, then move along the wall's angles instead of the standard ones.

[MauveBib]

Yay, MauveToGoal got a mention!

btw the easiest way to get rid of the zig-zag of movetogoal is to make movetogoal seconday, something like this (untested).

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void(float howquick) MauveWalk =
{
     self.ideal_yaw = vectoyaw(self.goalentity.origin - self.origin);
     ChangeYaw();

     if (!walkmove(self.angles_y, howquick))
          movetogoal(howquick);
};


Then it'll only use movetogoal if it hits an obstacle, else run directly towards the target. It'll probably get stuck a lot more though.


Also, I'm totally back.

[Urre]

Yay, MauveToGoal got a mention!

btw the easiest way to get rid of the zig-zag of movetogoal is to make movetogoal seconday, something like this (untested).

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void(float howquick) MauveWalk =
{
     self.ideal_yaw = vectoyaw(self.goalentity.origin - self.origin);
     ChangeYaw();

     if (!walkmove(self.angles_y, howquick))
          movetogoal(howquick);
};


Then it'll only use movetogoal if it hits an obstacle, else run directly towards the target. It'll probably get stuck a lot more though.

Wait, isn't this how mauvetogoal works? Am I missing something?

Also, I'm totally back.

Yay!

[MauveBib]

That was the original mauvetogoal idea as used in several mods, but the one you linked to uses .movement etc for a movetype_walk entity in DP. Botclient stuff, y'know.

[Teiman]

2) There's a specific monster, that I want to be able to walk on walls (Not the ceiling) is that possible?

I think you can make it "fly" so high it almost "touch" the sky. You will rotate the model 180degrees, to make it look "walking" on the ceiling. If the ceiling is flat, the effect will be perfect, I guest.