porting super8

[qbism]

Here's some base for you as an easy start: http://uhexen2.sourceforge.net/tmp/qbis ... sdl.tar.gz
This I quickly made using your 12-04-11 source plus a few changes (see files with Dec.12 date). There is no udp networking or sound support in it, either. Runs fine for me using pak0.pak+pak1.pak only. Better yet, I can't make it to segfault under water (maybe I correctly adapted your changes? who knows.) Anyways, good luck.

Quake-based engine (Hexen II) including software engine (even transparent water and entities) and lots of ports: http://uhexen2.sourceforge.net/ might be a source of knowledge.

That's my project , I hope you find something useful for you in there.

Thanks for the source. In a previous attempt I was at least able to compile TyrQuake network c so will try to add net and sound.

Guess I should read sigs more! I just downloaded HoT and Hexen II demo and giving it a go. Don't think I've ever tried it.

[leileilol]

There's a DOS port too if you're interested on putting Super8 on the big 16-bit x86 operating system.

[qbism]

There's a DOS port too if you're interested on putting Super8 on the big 16-bit x86 operating system.

Absolutely. Besides legit DOS, almost any OS could play it in DosBox. What compiler is used? If resolution is low (like 320 x 200), can use fixed-point span functions. I tried a while back with some from PocketQuake.

So, I got the linux port to compile from szo SDL source above, but having trouble getting it to start. Went to quake dir in xterm and typed ./qbismS8, but reported that it couldn't find gfx.wad, which usually means it's not finding the id1 folder. The case of the folder name is right. Maybe it needs more linux voodoo spell. I'm also wishing I'd installed 32bit linux instead of 64bit, it's tricky to compile down.

[Spirit]

Are the pak files lowercase too?

[qbism]

Are the pak files lowercase too?

Genius! They are now It will now play demos, but crash on map load. Can't find gfx/start.lmp and some others. I'm going to check alpha case inside the paks.
Also compiling as 64-bit which might create issues.

[leileilol]

There's a DOS port too if you're interested on putting Super8 on the big 16-bit x86 operating system.

Absolutely. Besides legit DOS, almost any OS could play it in DosBox. What compiler is used? If resolution is low (like 320 x 200), can use fixed-point span functions. I tried a while back with some from PocketQuake.

DJGPP, but to compile it properly you'll need to VM a Win9X system :/ (in my experience)

Engoo's dos version was compiled with DJGPP through Virtual PC running Windows98SE. Since I was maintaining a DOS port for that, I tried to pretty it up slightly in the startup process you might find a bit of inspiration in engoo's sys_dos.c

[qbism]

DOS port: http://qbism.com/nexus/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/qbismS8_0046.zip
code: https://sourceforge.net/projects/qbism/

DOS carries over most Windows features:

Big maps (within 64Mb memory limit)
Transparent water
Transparent particles
Skyboxes loaded from TGA images (palettized on the fly)
Scorch marks
Fisheye mode
Map name, demo name, and command line completion

ASM from classic WinQuake is used where possible, in particular for drawspans, the main rendering bottleneck.
32-bit DOS is required (win95 I think?) I've only tested this on DOSBOX. If anyone tries it on a different emulator or FreeDOS, let me know! I'm going to try making a FreeDOS bootable USB stick.

The build number in-game says 42 but it's really 46. I expect to do at least one update to this port, anyway.

Networking? Might work, haven't tried it.

[leileilol]

32-bit DOS is required (win95 I think?)

Quake always required cwsdpmi and so this is not really a Win95 dependency, you can run Quake on a windows-less 386DX even


Thank you for the DOS port! Now I can play in glorious 320x400 with screen filters!


I should test this on actual machines.

[qbism]

Engoo's dos version was compiled with DJGPP through Virtual PC running Windows98SE. Since I was maintaining a DOS port for that, I tried to pretty it up slightly in the startup process you might find a bit of inspiration in engoo's sys_dos.c

Super8 was compiled with DJGPP, but on FreeDOS running in VirtualBox. The only problem is that the networking beta version was not working with DJGPP. Instead of finding a real solution, I switched back-and-forth with the official FreeDOS just to move files.

I took a little from engoo / QIP sys_dos.c, initially to fix the random screenful of characters that was occurring with the original sys_dos.c. Also got the time fix. Eventually would like to look at that more, and engoo startup display.

32-bit DOS is required (win95 I think?)

Quake always required cwsdpmi and so this is not really a Win95 dependency, you can run Quake on a windows-less 386DX even

Thank you for the DOS port! Now I can play in glorious 320x400 with screen filters!

I should test this on actual machines.

Cool, hope it works on a real box. What is a screen filter?

[qbism]

pure coincidence, just noticed release today: FreeDOS 1.1 http://www.freedos.org

[leileilol]

In DOSBox I get an insufficient free memory for q_malloc error (with memsize=48)
I also noticed it's not using 48mb, just 32mb

[qbism]

In DOSBox I get an insufficient free memory for q_malloc error (with memsize=48)
I also noticed it's not using 48mb, just 32mb

Seems like the actual max that is usable in DOSBOX is around 46mb. I'm running a bat:
QBS8_DOS.EXE -mem 46 -heapsize 100000
Yeah, the heapsize isn't really going to be that big, but it will take whatever is left.

In the DOSBOX config file I set 64mb but I don't know if it can ever access that much.

[qbism]

super8 is working in linux with Wine and .bat file that has -noipx switch. Like

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qbismS8.exe -noipx -mem 31 -heapsize 320000 +MAP START

Is there any situation nowadays where ipx would be used? Or should it just be stripped from code? I can't imagine a win95 LAN party.

Also, has anyone tried running quake on dos from a memory stick boot? I haven't been able to get any version of quake to work with FreeDOS

[mh]

I'd kill ipx. It was a nice protocol in it's day but not even it's own mother loves it any more.