a quick question about sprites

[behind_you]

messing with this 4 a while and got nowhere. Sprites normally have the pink color as their transparency color. How do i change it so that black becomes the transparent color? I only want to do this for sprites, but if i have to change if for lmps as well, its fine.

[Baker]

messing with this 4 a while and got nowhere. Sprites normally have the pink color as their transparency color. How do i change it so that black becomes the transparent color? I only want to do this for sprites, but if i have to change if for lmps as well, its fine.

Whatever is palette color #255 is the transparent color, if I recall correctly. I assume you have fimg (if not download from the http://www.inside3d.com/frikbot/fimg/

You can't make black the transparent color [not realistically --- you'll break 20 things], but you can use something like Paintshop Pro to change all the instances of color 0 to color 255. This is a 2 minute task per image, it's easy and a hell of a lot less painful that any other method.

[behind_you]

or i could simply replace color 255 in the palette with watever color i want to use as transparent. Why cant i use black, what will i 'break'?

Is what u explained about paintshop pro replacing color in every image? I didnt understand ur explanation

[Baker]

or i could simply replace color 255 in the palette with watever color i want to use as transparent. Why cant i use black, what will i 'break'?

Because sprites use the Quake palette. And color #255 is the special transparent color and in the Quake palette that special transparent color is pink. You have to do a big chain of changes that would spiral into a huge mess.

The Quake Palette

color 255 is the bottom, right pink at the very corner. You can't change it.

Changing color in an image:

Either Google it or search for a video on YouTube and you'll get something like this link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oQi67-T5JA

If you can't figure out how to change a color in a 2D graphic, you'll have serious, serious problems trying to do whatever your project is.

[behind_you]

no i know how to change a pictures color. I hav a question tho

Changing color 255 means that all sprites and lmps must hav the same color change. What else breaks? I can't think of anything besides sprites and lmps that use that pink for transparency.

[Baker]

no i know how to change a pictures color. I hav a question tho

Changing color 255 means that all sprites and lmps must hav the same color change. What else breaks? I can't think of anything besides sprites and lmps that use that pink for transparency.

I told you the easy way that takes 1 minute 45 seconds. You could have adjusted the sprite by now.

If a color is transparent, it is invisible to the engine. Black? Pink? Aqua? I fail to see how the transparent color matters, except if you don't know how to use an image editor and spending a lot of time on engine coding to solve a "Don't know how to use an image editor" problem isn't something I want to spend my time on, really.

[behind_you]

the color doesnt matter. I c. Its just that u caught me off guard when u said ALOT OF THINGS WILL BREAK!!! Thnx 4 ur input!

I know how to edit images. Im only a noob at quakec and source code. Nothing else.

[Baker]

the color doesnt matter. I c. Its just that u caught me off guard when u said ALOT OF THINGS WILL BREAK!!! Thnx 4 ur input!

I know how to edit images. Im only a noob at quakec and source code. Nothing else.

Look I know, but I want to emphasize "the easiest route". If you are gonna get stuff, go for the easy win. Not the 40-year journey through the desert, ya know

[metlslime]

Black? Pink? Aqua? I fail to see how the transparent color matters,

For engines that have the "pink edges on sprites" bug (which is most of them), changing it to black will give you "black edges on sprites" which could be preferable.

[behind_you]

i guess. But i hate the pinky color. To death. Im gonna make it halflife's transparent color (r 0, b 255, g 0) its easier to work with and a lot of textures ive been making blended with the pink color causing ugly holes in the finished product

[behind_you]

Black? Pink? Aqua? I fail to see how the transparent color matters,

For engines that have the "pink edges on sprites" bug (which is most of them), changing it to black will give you "black edges on sprites" which could be preferable.

Does proquake psp have that bug? I havent noticed anything of the sort

[Baker]

Does proquake psp have that bug? I havent noticed anything of the sort

Nope. Like what metslime suggested, ProQuake PSP changes it to "black edges" on the sprite.

i guess. But i hate the pinky color. To death. Im gonna make it halflife's transparent color (r 0, b 255, g 0) its easier to work with and a lot of textures ive been making blended with the pink color causing ugly holes in the finished product

I am thinking you don't understand that Quake sprites are 8-bit color, not 24-bit color. http://quakery.quakedev.com/qwiki/index ... ke_palette

[behind_you]

offtopic:

Hey baker, whens next version of proquake psp comin out?

[Baker]

offtopic:

Hey baker, whens next version of proquake psp comin out?

Unknown. It is a distant 4th place on my priority list. I have a tournament mod I am writing, server security controls I am writing for NetQuake and a major reworking of Engine X that is in-progress.

Probably after those the main reason to update ProQuake PSP is in conjunction with a PSP mod I am making that will require new features.

So I don't see a ProQuake PSP update happening before July, sadly.

[behind_you]

july?! Well, i look forward to your other releases.

Btw, i tried ur psp proquake external texture support. I got a bunch of cant find certain pcx errors then it crashes. Whats with that? I only want to use one external texture.