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Postby dreadlorde » Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:18 pm

That fixed it Sajt, thanks.
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Postby Ranger366 » Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:42 pm

I needed this!
Thanks!
Its more fasteri hope, i needed 10 minutes to complete convert the HL2 weapons to Quake MDL...
Needed Milkshape, laggy QuArK and QME3.

http://supra36.webd.pl/issoft//fitz0001.png

http://supra36.webd.pl/issoft//fitz0000.png
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Postby Teiman » Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:00 pm

Sajt wrote: If I ever implemented a better error handling system (using setjmp/longjmp) these warnings would disappear. Once real life cools down I'll take a look at that.


I don't think exist any program that can be made better with setjmp.

I have looked at the code and seems good. If the compiler dislike it, is on the wrong, ignore him :-)
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Postby Sajt » Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:10 pm

Ranger366 wrote:I needed this!
Thanks!
Its more fasteri hope, i needed 10 minutes to complete convert the HL2 weapons to Quake MDL...
Needed Milkshape, laggy QuArK and QME3.

http://supra36.webd.pl/issoft//fitz0001.png

http://supra36.webd.pl/issoft//fitz0000.png


Hmm? Do you need something or did you figure it all out?
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Postby Ranger366 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:40 pm

Sajt wrote:
Ranger366 wrote:I needed this!
Thanks!
Its more fasteri hope, i needed 10 minutes to complete convert the HL2 weapons to Quake MDL...
Needed Milkshape, laggy QuArK and QME3.

http://supra36.webd.pl/issoft//fitz0001.png

http://supra36.webd.pl/issoft//fitz0000.png


Hmm? Do you need something or did you figure it all out?


just said that i hope converting is much faster know, it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7XC0mBEyJk
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Postby r00k » Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:29 am

Nice one Ranger.
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Postby Ranger366 » Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:44 pm

r00k wrote:Nice one Ranger.


Thanks!
When i did some more %, i will ask for some help on this Project, if you think its an good idea (Garry's Mod PSP)
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Postby leileilol » Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:06 pm

Ranger366 wrote: if you think its an good idea (Garry's Mod PSP)

NOT A GOOD IDEA AT ALL
you psp kids should stop blatantly ripping off Valve's commercial products and start making original games
You don't even know the reasonable limits of the quake engine! It's impossible to do gmod on it (face poser, lots of physics, lots of physics, lua scripting)

Lots of potential wasted talent all for cockiness of using CTRL-C + CTRL-V. I mean really, god damnit
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Postby Error » Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:34 pm

leileilol wrote:
Ranger366 wrote: if you think its an good idea (Garry's Mod PSP)

NOT A GOOD IDEA AT ALL
you psp kids should stop blatantly ripping off Valve's commercial products and start making original games
You don't even know the reasonable limits of the quake engine! It's impossible to do gmod on it (face poser, lots of physics, lots of physics, lua scripting)

Lots of potential wasted talent all for cockiness of using CTRL-C + CTRL-V. I mean really, god damnit


HAH! Nice
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Postby r00k » Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:00 am

Ya know, i try to be politically correct, and sometimes i go out of my way to pander to the new guys, but I'm with the sentiment that Converting a PD model to your project is all fine and dandy, but for sake of being a week end wanker, stop hiding in the bathroom and churn out your own cheese!! err dont churn.. or um make your own models with the conversion method you have used! ;P
\Ah, heck if you own HL2 and QUAKE why not customize!?! This isnt about how to be a commercial game dev, if so this forum would get at least a few S&D's a week no?? :P

on a side note, i never thought i'd hear Cheapy defend Valve for anything.. :|



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Postby Error » Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:36 am

not even the limits of the Quake engine you need to worry about... it's on the PSP! which while impressive for a portable console is quite weak.

in terms of physics, Darkplaces has actual good physics now, thanks to some guy tinkering around with the Nexuiz engine. LINK I'm not sure if this is in the releases, but I heard talk of just adding a dll that's needed and it's there. These physics aren't quite what you would need for a GMOD sorta mod, but still quite impressive. PSP can not handle this.
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Postby xaGe » Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:55 am

..Just watched half a dozen Youtube videos of the open source ODE physics engine being used in Nexuiz(darkplaces). Looked like fun! Hopefully Xonotic will find a use for something like that. :D
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Postby ajay » Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:39 am

r00k wrote:Ya know, i try to be politically correct, and sometimes i go out of my way to pander to the new guys, but I'm with the sentiment that Converting a PD model to your project is all fine and dandy, but for sake of being a week end wanker, stop hiding in the bathroom and churn out your own cheese!! err dont churn.. or um make your own models with the conversion method you have used!


I get your point here, but I'll give my point of view on it.... I'm always going to be a solo mod maker; there's too many real life stuff that will get in the way and mean I drop modding for months, sometimes years. Therefore it wouldn't be fair to be part of a team and let them down, so consequently I do (or not, as is the point of this) everything myself. Now, I just about cope with qc and mapping, but I really do not have the time or energy to learn modelling as well (even if I would have get good enough at it) - I've got 3 kids and an insanely tiring and busy job and well, modding ain't my only leisure activity. Therefore I use (legally and appropriately unless I miss something) other people's models, either having to convert them or not.
As for this person's psp mod, well maybe it's not the best for many reasons and there's other things they could be doing to achieve what they want to do. But its a good place for them to learn, especially if its what enthuses them most. So it's got some issues, and it could be done differently, but if it floats their boat and gets them learning then fair enough. Their next project could be different....
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Postby Ranger366 » Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:21 pm

leileilol wrote:
Ranger366 wrote: if you think its an good idea (Garry's Mod PSP)

NOT A GOOD IDEA AT ALL
you psp kids should stop blatantly ripping off Valve's commercial products and start making original games
You don't even know the reasonable limits of the quake engine! It's impossible to do gmod on it (face poser, lots of physics, lots of physics, lua scripting)

Lots of potential wasted talent all for cockiness of using CTRL-C + CTRL-V. I mean really, god damnit


Its only tempomary because i cant make these models first from scratch, i need to see how it looks like HL2, i haveto remake these models custom (im good at modelling) because of the performance, the Toolgun has too many Vertices, i cant use them.
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Postby r00k » Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:11 am

Ajay: I completely agree. For the sake of coding or testing, it's always nice to use a test model, and if you dont have to MAKE it just to test say your new shader function sure. But to take a handful of models and retool them for a mod, well its illegal and kinda weak sauce.
But heck if its just you and your dorm buddies then who cares. And who cares anyways if its just a downgraded mod anyways. Unless Valve sees it differently. :(
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