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Postby ShoTro » Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:25 pm

Ok, most people will just ignore this post because it isn't actually producing much of anything but announcing my interest in getting back into Modding in Quake 1. I have been playing mods and simply the single player game for over a decade now, used to mod way back when. Most of my mods were just for my friends and I to play, but never really came back to visit this site in particular which has been awesome at keeping the content coming.

Both Quoth and Kawaiik (http://www.itchstudios.com/psg/quake/kawaiik.htm) have inspired me to try to get back into the community again. Not sure what name I used last time I was here.

Since it has been 10 years I think I can bring more then minor Quake C experience into play. I have a few designs for Quake 1 characters which I was working on just for fun to test how much detail I can put into less then 150 vert models. Check them out:

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http://shotro.deviantart.com/

Anyways, this post is basically a very prolonged "Hi!". I would love to work on a monster pack similar to that of Quoth or even assist in the creation of new original monsters for Quoth if possible. But first I think I need to prove myself by finishing a character first and demoing a level for it. If I am for real about this (you know how it goes) you will see something from me or questions posted soon. The creature I am going to finalize isn't shown in the gallery nor on this post.
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Postby scar3crow » Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:33 pm

Hi!

Some interesting potential there. Looking forward to what you have to show!

Regarding Quoth, I've seen Kell lurk here some, and even post a few times - don't recall if I've seen necros around, but they're more active at func_msgboard which is heavily mapping oriented - and Quoth is kind of the Mod For the Mappers (curse the divisions!).

Kawaiik looks adorable... I recall designing a faction war mod once... Akuma tried coding it, and did a decent job, we had rival factions of knights being led by death knights).

From the Kawaiik site:
"I still think Quake 1 looks awesome in 400*300 software render. It's enough for presenting most types of gameplay relevant information, like where stuff is, what it is and how it's moving."
I think I'm in love. Finally, someone else is speaking of graphics in terms of displaying relevant and informative gameplay details!
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Postby ShoTro » Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:52 pm

scar3crow wrote:Hi!

Some interesting potential there. Looking forward to what you have to show!

Regarding Quoth, I've seen Kell lurk here some, and even post a few times - don't recall if I've seen necros around, but they're more active at func_msgboard which is heavily mapping oriented - and Quoth is kind of the Mod For the Mappers (curse the divisions!).


Yeah, not looking to jump into working with them right away. Want to get some small projects and tests out of the way first. If I start feeling like I can produce more work for the community you will see me pumping stuff out, although admittedly I will be pushing for things I feel that the guys from Quoth are leaving out of their gameplay designs... nothing extreme, but mechanics I haven't seen discussed anywhere in the 10 years I have been browsing quake forums.
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Postby CocoT » Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:35 pm

Awesome stuff! :)
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Postby Dr. Shadowborg » Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:07 pm

Very nice, ShoTro!

I especially like the hunter, I don't suppose you could be convinced to skin and animate that guy (well creature) into some freaky cybernetic vore / vore sister species?

I'd be willing to help with the code and a demo map for it.

(/me imagines that fighting against that thing with idle, pain, death, walk, left arm flamethrower sweep, right arm rocket shoot, left arm grenade shoot, and both arm plasma shoot frames)
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Postby ShoTro » Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:21 pm

Dr. Shadowborg wrote:Very nice, ShoTro!

I especially like the hunter, I don't suppose you could be convinced to skin and animate that guy (well creature) into some freaky cybernetic vore / vore sister species?

I'd be willing to help with the code and a demo map for it.

(/me imagines that fighting against that thing with idle, pain, death, walk, left arm flamethrower sweep, right arm rocket shoot, left arm grenade shoot, and both arm plasma shoot frames)


Thanks, I am willing to do that, just need to get the blender3D export stuff worked out. If it can be animated via Skeleton somehow before export that would make developing it a snap. The model itself is based on the Vore Queen done for the Kawaiik art project... but modelling from scratch means I tend to let my mind wander hence it is less spiky and more cybernetic/walking turret like.

I anticipate skinning and animating it as soon as I get a model or two under my belt, but the coding/demoing I am interested in outsourcing to those willing to collaborate. I am not going to take requests, but will take suggestions.
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Postby Dr. Shadowborg » Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:44 pm

ShoTro wrote:I anticipate skinning and animating it as soon as I get a model or two under my belt, but the coding/demoing I am interested in outsourcing to those willing to collaborate. I am not going to take requests, but will take suggestions.


Groovy.

I understand the requests part, as that tends to take all the fun out of modding.

Anywho, if you ever need any help with getting a new monster into quake, give me a holler and I'll see what I can come up with. :wink: (even though I'm not all that great at modelling organics, I can definatly help out with coding and some mapping)
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Postby ShoTro » Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:54 pm

Dr. Shadowborg wrote:Anywho, if you ever need any help with getting a new monster into quake, give me a holler and I'll see what I can come up with. :wink: (even though I'm not all that great at modelling organics, I can definatly help out with coding and some mapping)


Mapping is where I have no experience. So I will need some help with coding and mapping.
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Postby CocoT » Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:49 am

A good modeler would certainly come in handy in this community :)
Well, maybe I'm just talking for myself, because I suck at modelling :P
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Postby ShoTro » Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:35 pm

CocoT wrote:A good modeler would certainly come in handy in this community :)
Well, maybe I'm just talking for myself, because I suck at modelling :P

Well I don't think modeling is the problem, it is the animations that really screw things up for people, because Quake's animation system sucks. I think I might have a solution, where skeletons can be used along with fancy things like IK in the model before exporting the mesh... It is taking longer then I thought to come to a single clean solution to this problem, but expect something in a day or two. Check out the MDL Exporterthread for blender. I have been posting my findings/frustrations over getting Blender to be my end-all modeling/animation/skinning studio.
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