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Quake reboot ?

Postby frag.machine » Wed May 18, 2016 9:13 pm

TECHSPOT: Following the success of Doom, it looks as if id Software's next project will be a Quake reboot
http://www.techspot.com/news/64877-soft ... eboot.html
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Re: Quake reboot ?

Postby Error » Thu May 19, 2016 3:34 am

I swear to god... there better not be a single mention of Strogg. :evil:
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Re: Quake reboot ?

Postby ceriux » Sat May 21, 2016 8:54 pm

Error wrote:I swear to god... there better not be a single mention of Strogg. :evil:
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Re: Quake reboot ?

Postby toneddu2000 » Sun May 22, 2016 8:05 pm

Error wrote:I swear to god... there better not be a single mention of Strogg. :evil:
:biggrin: Eh.. I think that, if really they're going to remake Quake, 90% of chances it's going to be Quake II and not Quake :confused:

Quake was imo unique Id masterpiece because of its atmosphere, of its different architecture (medieval, gothic, horror but not a "passive" horror game like nowadays games, outlast one of many). I read somewhere that so few people liked Quake atmosphere that Id took immediately a detour to a robotic / tech environment.. which it's a little boring to my personal taste, but, whatever :confused:

I mean, even first Doom was a completely different "tech" atmosphere (it was more "demoniac" and "esotheric") than Doom3 one (cannot say about new DOOM, we'll see), but, after-Quake1 games preserved that modern tech mood
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Re: Quake reboot ?

Postby frag.machine » Mon May 23, 2016 2:27 am

Quake has this unique look and feel thanks to a convoluted development. The original game idea wasn't a FPS, but instead some sort of medieval/fantasy background with more paced combat (probably involving a lot of melee fights). Problem is, Romero tossed some ideas around, the artists started to work and... he totally lost the focus, distracted while playing rockstar and pushing several other side projects (Doom expansions, Heretic, tournaments, etc). Meanwhile the engine took much more time to develop than anticipated, the fans started to complain, nobody at id had a clear idea about what was the game about, and at some point someone suggested "let's just make Doom again". The existent lovecraftian artwork was mangled together with military/futuristic themes and bang, you get Quake.

With Quake II, without Romero to take the reins in the game design, Carmack just followed the obvious, bland and easy theme of "mariners versus alien cyborgs" because he was more interested in the engine development than in the gameplay itself. It's no wonder many people say id games used to look just tech demos.

That said, I'd love to see more Cthulu than Stroggs in a Quake remake.
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Re: Quake reboot ?

Postby toneddu2000 » Mon May 23, 2016 7:22 am

Thanks frag.machine, didn't know thw whole story. It's always nice to learn more about Id Software! :)

frag.machine wrote:That said, I'd love to see more Cthulu than Stroggs in a Quake remake.
Yep, probably we all here want that too. Let's hope that Bethesda will listen to Quake fans instead of marketing... meh..
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Re: Quake reboot ?

Postby Irritant » Tue May 24, 2016 5:27 pm

Yeah, I don't think rebooting Quake 1 will be very easily done, as pointed out, it really was a poorly thrown together mishmash of medieval themes and Doom style tech. It really was as much a showcase for Carmack's new true 3D engine as much as anything else, that was the main fascination of it for many. That it turned out to actually be a fun, enjoyable game experience was truly remarkable given how it came about. Quake 2 certainly was an admission that Q1 was a hodgepodge mess of a game, but it was definitely the "easy" way out, lacking much in the way of any real imagination. However, even as yet another showcase of idTech 2, it delivered a truly fun experience(at least for me). I do recall being disappointed that it didn't stick with a Lovecraftian theme, and being puzzled at the change, but looking back, and learning what truly happened, it makes sense to me now. Quake 3 was again a departure, going to a fully multiplayer only game, maybe again taking the easy way out.

Now, that said, because the original was so mishmash, with no real direction, it does present a unique opportunity for id to really, truly make something special using the Lovecraftian theme, and some pretty awesome monsters and effects. It's a rather peculiar dilemma for them, which direction to go here...Strogg...or Cthulu? Maybe even find a way to marry the entire thing, now that could be interesting...
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Re: Quake reboot ?

Postby Spike » Tue May 24, 2016 11:27 pm

it really wouldn't surprise me if they made it as a sequel to doom rather than as part of quake - now that you've killed all the denizens of hell, you have various other gods invading too. throw in knights, ogres, castles, job done. if it really is a quake reboot then it doesn't need a real story anyway... :P
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Re: Quake reboot ?

Postby Baker » Wed May 25, 2016 1:47 am

Quake doesn't lend itself to a story.

It's more like a lonely trip to place of nightmares.

Since game makers can't shut up ... (they love having dialog in a game)
Since average gaymer needs a story ...
Since games today are about a big choice of weapons ...
Since games today need effects (a nail gun does not lend itself to such) ...

I suspect a remake of Quake would not really remind one of Quake.

I also suspect if Quake were made 2 years later, it would have been more like Half-Life ---- or if it went in the RPG direction --- possibly more like Diablo or something.

So many of the nice things about Quake were just plain luck about media limitations at the time and the frantic development, never to be repeated and not by intent.

The rare game without a story or any answers, let your imagination fill in the blanks -- like a book.
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Re: Quake reboot ?

Postby jitspoe » Wed May 25, 2016 6:44 am

If they remake Quake like the original, it should include that dragon...
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Re: Quake reboot ?

Postby frag.machine » Wed May 25, 2016 11:32 am

jitspoe wrote:If they remake Quake like the original, it should include that dragon...

And the vomitus! Poor guy got no love.
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