Darkplaces engine supports .flac audio format?

[TiR]

Hi there!

Does the darkplaces engine support .flac audio format?

I have some wav that use too much disk space and I'll like to convert then in .flac

Sorry for my low skilled English.

Thanks!

[Spirit]

I don't think it does. It supports Ogg Vorbis though. Ogg Vorbis with a quality of 5 is transparent to most people. You could save even more space by using it.

[TiR]

I don't think it does. It supports Ogg Vorbis though. Ogg Vorbis with a quality of 5 is transparent to most people. You could save even more space by using it.

But .ogg vorbis is more slow to load in comparison of .wav or .flac true? Or I'm wrong?

[mh]

Everything's slow in comparison to wav as everything else needs some kind of decompression. Well aside from .snd, .raw and a few others, but in general, if a format needs decompression then the decompression step is going to make it slower than a format that doesn't require decompression. This includes flac as flac is aclso compressed (it's just lossless compression); a flac file will open maybe 20 times slower than a wav in a wave editor.

None of this should matter if DP supports streaming audio, as only the frames from the audio file that are actually currently needed should be decompressed.

[TiR]

Everything's slow in comparison to wav as everything else needs some kind of decompression. Well aside from .snd, .raw and a few others, but in general, if a format needs decompression then the decompression step is going to make it slower than a format that doesn't require decompression. This includes flac as flac is aclso compressed (it's just lossless compression); a flac file will open maybe 20 times slower than a wav in a wave editor.

None of this should matter if DP supports streaming audio, as only the frames from the audio file that are actually currently needed should be decompressed.

Interesting

Then I'll use .OGG format instead .FLAC or .WAV

DarkPlaces doesn't support streaming audio right? Is this hard to implement?

[leileilol]

OGG is streamed, they did that years ago so yes it does.


At one point, a whole unstreamed OGG was decoded and loaded into memory and took tons of ram. This point was 2004.

[TiR]

OGG is streamed, they did that years ago so yes it does.


At one point, a whole unstreamed OGG was decoded and loaded into memory and took tons of ram. This point was 2004.

Good to hear that

Which program is the best to convert wav and mp3 files to ogg? I have goldwave but I don't know if that program will work.

Thanks again for your help!

[mh]

GoldWave is hands down my favourite audio editor, and is fully capable of saving as .ogg format.

[leileilol]

oggenc is what you should use to make ogg files

I still use Cool Edit 96 to edit sounds (for over 17 years of using it since 1.31), it's what id used for Quake. There's even an ogg codec filter for it. Despite its age, it still works dandy and all in Windows 7 64. There are just some tools that seem immortal

[revelator]

yip those old gems show how good coding is truely done still use a few dinosaur age programs myself mainly because nothing better exist

[mh]

Yup, good software is good software and age doesn't matter.

[frag.machine]

Heh I am still using PSP 3.12 in Windows 7 (!!!!).
GoldWave is just great to audio editing, but IIRC you will need to install Ogg/Vorbis codecs separately if you want to save/load such formats. No big deal, but I think it's worth to mention.

[mh]

PSP 5 here.
Some of the extra functionality in more recent versions would be nice to have (I've had a need for scripting on occasion) but sometimes all you want to do is open an image really fast.

I think more recent versions of GW don't need a codec for ogg support; pretty sure the necessary comes with the download.

[behind_you]

I think more recent versions of GW don't need a codec for ogg support; pretty sure the necessary comes with the download.

yes, the recent goldwave comes with the ogg codec. if anyone is missing codecs, google search k-lite codec pack nd download that. its a less tedious process than downloading and installing separate codecs.

[TiR]

Seeing that goldwave is good I'll continue to use it.