QuakeDev.com downtime and request for archival

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:04 pm

http://quakery.quakedev.com/robots.txt
No wonder it never attracted people.

Solecord · Post by **Solecord** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:34 pm

If anyone needs hosting for any thing, please contact me steve * quakeone ^ com

replace * with @ and ^ with .

I'd be interested in putting up the qexpo stuff. Anything else....

frag.machine · Post by **frag.machine** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:20 am

Bummer, another Quake site bites the dust.

I'll backup my site (I am pretty sure I already have a copy somewhere, but I'll make another just to be sure). Thanks for the extended life span, LH.

Chip · Post by **Chip** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:13 am

frag.machine wrote:Bummer, another Quake site bites the dust.

I'll backup my site (I am pretty sure I already have a copy somewhere, but I'll make another just to be sure). Thanks for the extended life span, LH.

What about a full FTP copy of the server and a database dump? In case anyone has access to FTP?

LordHavoc · Post by **LordHavoc** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:48 pm

Chip wrote:What about a full FTP copy of the server and a database dump? In case anyone has access to FTP?

Echon, icculus and I have root access to the box, it's a dedicated server with 42 subdomains.

There are now independent backups of the entire server in the possession of icculus, R1CH and I (mine only focused on web and svn though).

The server is up for another month, which gives people time to figure out what they want to do with it.

icculus has offered to take up hosting of the entire archived website at its current domain, but this does not cover the svn situation, and it is not clear what will happen to dynamic content such as wiki's at this point.

Anyone wanting continued svn service should contact an svn hosting site and review their terms of use, in particular icculus.org only takes open source projects so private projects should look elsewhere (in general private hosting of svn involves monthly fees, so good luck).

Requests for svndump data for public projects can be satisfied by icculus or I on request.

Requests for svndump data for private projects should go to me, as I need to verify the authenticity of a team representative before handing that over.

It is not advisable to continue working on the server because our backups are already done, although I think R1CH's backups will continue to be updated until the server falls into the void once more.

It is clear is that quakedev.com will never be the same again even if the website is migrated.

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:28 pm

Whatever you do, make sure you do not expose private data by eg listing directory contents by default. IGN/Gamespy did this when they re-enabled the Planetquake hosted sites for a while and it is a headache.

Post by **Error** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:51 am

I think we need to come up with a list of solutions. I, for one, offer hosting on my site. Again, I know nothing of SVN, so I can't help with any sites that wish to incorporate that.

Dr. Shadowborg is fully transferred and hosted now.

Post by **Dr. Shadowborg** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 4:34 am

Error wrote: Dr. Shadowborg is fully transferred and hosted now.

Not fully transferred, still need to finish uploading some files, and get the FXRC re-set up. (dialup which is on the fritz, so it's slow)

BTW, BIG thanks to LH for buying us some time.

Feared · Post by **Feared** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:56 am

Spent a few hours copying the files.

http://bfeared.com/library/index.php?di ... /quakedev/
or
http://bfeared.com/library/quake/archive/quakedev/

Read missing_files.txt so you know what files I didn't/couldn't upload.
The SVN files are just the latest tarballs I grabbed from the SVN.

Tell me if you see any major issues with any of the webfiles.

stevenaaus · Post by **stevenaaus** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:52 am

Feared wrote:Spent a few hours copying the files.

http://bfeared.com/library/index.php?di ... /quakedev/
or
http://bfeared.com/library/quake/archive/quakedev/

Cheers. All of QuDos' massive Linux effort is there.

motorsep · Post by **motorsep** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:08 am

Are you guys for real?! I get my shit and I am gone?! Is that what it is?!

All we need is 13 ppl pitching in $10 monthly (or 26 ppl and $5 monthly) and we can keep this site alive.

My only question is why is it so damn expensive!?

Baker · Post by **Baker** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:05 am

motorsep wrote:Are you guys for real?! I get my shit and I am gone?! Is that what it is?!

All we need is 13 ppl pitching in $10 monthly (or 26 ppl and $5 monthly) and we can keep this site alive.

So ... let's see .. other people have to pay teh bills indefinitely for a dead site with little activity in recent history because you want a free host and don't want to make the inconvenient effort to migrate to the multitude of other free hosts for SVN/Git/whatever and webspace?

I had a site at QuakeDev too but with all the Quake sites that have died over the years (Quakesrc.org, quakepit, spawnpoint.org, leveldesign.org, PlanetQuake's hosting for crying out loud) it wasn't like I'd bet the farm on it.

That's crazy.

Sajt · Post by **Sajt** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:49 pm

Even if other people have already backed everything up, in early May I'll back up quakery stuff (qwiki) and qexpo stuff, if I can remember the passwords... I don't know if icculus does mysql, but if so qwiki can return there.

motorsep · Post by **motorsep** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:07 pm

No, that's not crazy.. You are crazy. When did I ever say I need free host for my SVN? If I can't have it there, I can pay $12 per month and have it it in other place, safe. Not a big deal.

I proposed that because I though community wants to preserve it.

By all means, do what ever you please people.. Just don't bitch that another great Quake community website went under.

Sajt · Post by **Sajt** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:19 pm

Good luck finding 13 people who want to keep quakedev as much as you do. You might be the only one. There are perfectly good alternatives that don't require spending money to keep quakedev alive in some perpetual, fragile near-death state.

And we aren't the ones bitching about it. Kudos for Echon for hosting the site as long as he did, and to LH for keeping it alive one more month, but that doesn't mean that the website deserves to stay alive at the expense of more people.