RTCW source is GPL'd since August 2010 !?

[frag.machine]

And not a single word about this here !?

Also, Carmack hinted about releasing Doom 3 after launching Rage.

[leileilol]

And not a single word about this here !?

uh




A couple things make it kind of useless:

- GPLv3 + some clauses (mostly regarding trademark protection, so no shitty names like "ioRTCW" or "Freeet" are allowed) for a license isn't exactly legally compatible if you're looking to mix it in some GPLv2 stuff (for trivial things like its better particle system or even its flares, which are a modified q3test-era implementation, or even the flamethrower (which was really hotshit in 2000))
- Can't make a content project if no MDS/MDX exporter exists (for Blender) (This is Grey Matter's skeletal model format)


Though the comments found inside the source can be interesting - I didn't know this was developed as early as June 1999 (immediately following Kingpin's release). That gives them a year's more development time than their competitor MOHAA had! (MOHAA began June 2000)... and making speculations of analysing the comments seems to feel like it could've been out in 2000 (among the string of successful, awesome and unique idtech3 shooters out that year) if it weren't for the whole Nerve working on the MP part

Also there's disabled bot code in there for RTCW and ET! I wonder how they played - they're definitely modified for their games and aren't a intact q3 leftover

[metalmodman]

And not a single word about this here !?

Sorry I think this would be the third post.

Also, Carmack hinted about releasing Doom 3 after launching Rage.

I hope so. Do you know where I can find more information on this?

[frag.machine]

And not a single word about this here !?

uh

heh... Ok, I deserved that.

A couple things make it kind of useless:

- GPLv3 + some clauses (mostly regarding trademark protection, so no shitty names like "ioRTCW" or "Freeet" are allowed) for a license isn't exactly legally compatible if you're looking to mix it in some GPLv2 stuff (for trivial things like its better particle system or even its flares, which are a modified q3test-era implementation, or even the flamethrower (which was really hotshit in 2000))

Hmm. ANAL but are you sure about leeching code to inject into a Quake engine being illegal ?

- Can't make a content project if no MDS/MDX exporter exists (for Blender) (This is Grey Matter's skeletal model format)

Oh snap

Also there's disabled bot code in there for RTCW and ET! I wonder how they played - they're definitely modified for their games and aren't a intact q3 leftover

I remember ET being released for free exactly because the bots sucked. Big time.

[metalmodman]

I remember ET being released for free exactly because the bots sucked. Big time.

Whoa! no way the bots suck but I don't think that's why it was released. I think ET was put together by the same guy who did Quake Wars and I think he put together a ET as a preview of Quake Wars.

ET is pretty close to Day of Defeat only with more players, much more interesting levels, objectives and action. Imo ET is a lot more fun then Quake wars.


Found a lot of sites about Doom 3 sources release. Thank you I can't wait!

[andrewj]

Hmm. ANAL but are you sure about leeching code to inject into a Quake engine being illegal ?

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.htm ... patibility

But I see the Quake code contains the "or any later version" phrase, so I presume you can relicense a combination under GPLv3 and have nothing legal to worry about.

[leileilol]

I think ET was put together by the same guy who did Quake Wars

No. They hired that FritzaC who made the Fritzbot mod for WolfET to do the bot ai for Quake Wars.

[mh]

Hmm. ANAL but are you sure about leeching code to inject into a Quake engine being illegal ?

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.htm ... patibility

But I see the Quake code contains the "or any later version" phrase, so I presume you can relicense a combination under GPLv3 and have nothing legal to worry about.

Or just switch your Quake code to v3.