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Postby horrorporn » Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:02 am

mikeusa: I have some advice for you and I think you'd do well to listen.

1. Calm down, don't worry about what others think, especially on the internet. Also; consider whether you're overreacting to a guy who's working on a very big, very ambitious project and who might even have a life afk.

2. It's open source, make a git branch roll your sleeves up and start figuring out the practicalities of what you want, like the tutors at school I'm sure he'd prefer to look over your code than implement what you want from scratch.

3. Delete this thread, or beg the admins to. This is embarrassing for all of us, especially you.
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Postby Error » Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:20 am

horrorporn wrote:mikeusa: I have some advice for you and I think you'd do well to listen.

1. Calm down, don't worry about what others think, especially on the internet. Also; consider whether you're overreacting to a guy who's working on a very big, very ambitious project and who might even have a life afk.

2. It's open source, make a git branch roll your sleeves up and start figuring out the practicalities of what you want, like the tutors at school I'm sure he'd prefer to look over your code than implement what you want from scratch.

3. Delete this thread, or beg the admins to. This is embarrassing for all of us, especially you.


agreed 100%. he wouldn't need to beg me to...
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Postby mikeusa » Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:23 am

Working? I don't recall getting paied. What are you talking about?
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Postby mikeusa » Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:27 am

Embarassing? I don't understand what you mean. And why would anyone care if it's embarassing? I don't understand how it is embarassing. If we were talking about some corporation that needed to maintain an image and public relations, maybe, but we are talking about an opensource project who's main feature is opposition to the very person who is the biggest contributor to their game: LordHavok. It's embarrassing that they continue to use the same engine built and continually updated by someone they so dislike.
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Postby ajay » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:18 pm

I hate popular phrases that are used to death, and long stop being funny or cool. "Wassssup" is one. Actually, no its not, that was never cool, or funny.
Anyway, to the point; I read some, most, a bit(bot) of all that, and just came away thinking: "man up".
That is all.
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Postby Irritant » Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:55 pm

mikeusa wrote:I want to know why divverent's behavior towards me changed, why he grew to hate me like all the rest fairly suddenly (everyone else hated me since forever), and how I can get it to be like the past, where he liked me.


Until you figure out that your outspoken social views towards women are the reason these types of things keep happening to you, you'll never get anywhere in this life.

Somebody should delete this utterly embarrasing thread.
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Postby MauveBib » Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:05 pm

Mikeusa: Given your extremist polotical postings and antagonistic behaviour, it's hardly a shock that people turn against you.
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Postby mikeusa » Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:29 pm

ajay wrote:I hate popular phrases that are used to death, and long stop being funny or cool. "Wassssup" is one. Actually, no its not, that was never cool, or funny.
Anyway, to the point; I read some, most, a bit(bot) of all that, and just came away thinking: "man up".
That is all.


Why should I "man up" there is no reward. What I want has been legislativly banned (no young wives). I am never going to do anything for my society.

To other person:
As for getting anywhere in this life, why would I bother? People like you have made it illegal for me to get what I want in life (pretty, and young virgin wife, ie: recently became fertile, ie: recently entered womanhood).

Why shouldn't I be resentful?
Why should it matter in opensource? It didn't used to matter, people had flamewars all the time. Only once opensource got more popular did the "bad men" start to be kicked out of opensource and the "good men and Women" start to take over, especially the opensource/linux publications.

From the beginning much of the nexuiz community was worthless populist riff-raff, most who never did anything at all for the game, but had HIGH standing in the "community" and were well respected. Only Divverent, LordHavoc etc cared about what people actually accomplished rather than how nice they were to others, how well they socialized, and how much they agreed with the standard pro-feminist viewpoint of society.

Now Divverent has fully switched to the other way of thinking. He cares that one obey the pro-feminist belief system, it is not what one produces anymore but how much one conforms to the standard beliefs.

Oh well, the muslims will wash all of this away, and I can laugh at all these other men as we all rot in our graves.

Why has divverent switched?
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Postby mikeusa » Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:38 pm

Irritant wrote:
mikeusa wrote:I want to know why divverent's behavior towards me changed, why he grew to hate me like all the rest fairly suddenly (everyone else hated me since forever), and how I can get it to be like the past, where he liked me.


Until you figure out that your outspoken social views towards women are the reason these types of things keep happening to you, you'll never get anywhere in this life.

Somebody should delete this utterly embarrasing thread.


I will never quit voicing my views. Your society has NOTHING for me. I don't care if I don't get anywhere in this life because there is nowhere to go. Your society is geared towards advancing women, helping women, helping men to help women, freeing women, freeing wives, stealing from men and husbands. I cannot have a young virgin girl as a bride. YOU YES YOU have made this illegal, all around the world. I _RESENT_ you for it, and everyone who keeps this society functioning as a paradise for women.

The only solace I find is the fact that the anti-feminist muslims, people who do take young wives, do not advance women's rights, keep girls in their place BELOW men, BELOW their husbands, they are reproducing at such a rapid rate, and Europeans at such a low rate, that European feminism will be dead, stoned, and beheaded before the century is through (unless the Europeans commit another holocaust).

And then only America will be left as a womans paradise, and eventually it will fall too.

If men cannot have theirs, then why should men prop up woman's society?


Now, all of these ideas, the xonotic and nexuiz people cannot stand.
In the past it wouldn't have mattered: opensource was a place of code and getting things done. It was a men-only sphere for the most part. Now that has all changed, everything must be nice for women and nice-good-men who protect them.
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Postby ajay » Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:27 pm

Wowsers, now I remember you!

It always amazes how insecure any group (gender, religion etc) must be if they feel somehow put upon if they aren't superior to or advanced above another group.

As for "young virgin bride" - get help, hand yourself in, and get help.

Delete and ban, surely?
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Postby Spike » Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:00 pm

I'm beginning to wonder if mikeusa has some form of autism, tbh. Not understanding what was meant by embarassing is a bit... strange. Could also help to explain how he might feel slavery to be normal behaviour - complete disregard for others. Blaming everyone else for his own failings is also a hint. Continuing to argue his point without even realising that noone else here agrees even a tiny bit with him. Not normal.

I wonder if he'll get a chance to read this before the topic is deleted.
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Postby Irritant » Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:17 pm

Spike wrote:I'm beginning to wonder if mikeusa has some form of autism, tbh. Not understanding what was meant by embarassing is a bit... strange. Could also help to explain how he might feel slavery to be normal behaviour - complete disregard for others. Blaming everyone else for his own failings is also a hint. Continuing to argue his point without even realising that noone else here agrees even a tiny bit with him. Not normal.


Probably not autism I would think, more like some type of social disfunction brought on by upbringing, or maybe he got dumped by a girl and just never got over it. He clearly has a serious hatred towards women.

Honestly, and in all seriousness, he seems a lot like a serial killer/mass murderer in the making.
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Postby Feared » Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:56 pm

He does have some points (which I won't talk about for the sake of peace). But he shouldn't be going to a Quake forums crying about such things.

He might as well be banned now to stop the drama dead in it's tracks.
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Postby mikeusa » Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:34 pm

ajay wrote:Wowsers, now I remember you!

It always amazes how insecure any group (gender, religion etc) must be if they feel somehow put upon if they aren't superior to or advanced above another group.

As for "young virgin bride" - get help, hand yourself in, and get help.

Delete and ban, surely?


"As for "young virgin bride" - get help, hand yourself in, and get help."

Most of your male ancestors had young wives. If you disagree with their actions, that they took young girls as their loyal servants, then please do them honor and do yourself in. Your male ancestors would surely not allow you to continue to exist if they heard your opinion on women's rights and the fact that you believe that men should not have young fertile females as wives. They are probably unhappy that their line continued so far just to be capped by someone they most assuredly hate.
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Postby ajay » Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:47 pm

How far back are you going? There was a biological imperitive far back in history for female humans to breed young; people didn't live very long, many babies didn't survive so breeding started earlier.
The morals were dictated by this biological, species propergating neccessity and by a lack of awareness and appreciation. It was a different world.
Now, there is no biological imperitive and, thankfully, morals have led the way, a greater understanding of the sociological and emotional effects has been gained and the human race has developed in a more sophisticated direction now that the reproduction and continuation of us as a species has a more flexible timeframe and the chance of each and every baby surviving and thriving is so much greater.
With that sophistication of us as a species has come, hand in hand, a more moral outlook on the genders; it's no longer "man strong, woman weak", "give me son now" and more worthwhile, moral and intelligent principles have developed and become valued.
You've apparently missed this. Shame on you. Shame on those who taught you.
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