What are you working on?

[taniwha]

Actually, I've got a python script for blender (2.4 ) that loads the HYG etc star lists from mysql (I had previously loaded the catalogs) and puts little octahedrons at the start locations. This page should be a good place to start (and the rest of the site is fantastic).

[andrewj]

Randomly generated cave:


or outdoor area:

[Baker]

Nicest looking randomly generated maps I've seen.

(If that inter map travel stuff in the source release [#ifdef Quake2] were combined, you could easily build a whole underground system of worlds with something like that).

[taniwha]

Yes, very nice looking cave and valley. Will you be making your tools available at some stage?

[qbism]

Lighting is good on the random maps. Oblige generated?

[ceriux]

that is freakin awesome!

[Baker]

This needs to be seen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8aUI9flEvc

http://quakeone.com/forums/quake-help/q ... uake1.html

^^ This modder named Hypersonic has busted an ages old limitation. Anti-gravity mods, wall walking, walking on the ceiling and stuff and more should be possible with this modification.

[andrewj]

Lighting is good on the random maps. Oblige generated?

Yep that's OBLIGE

There'll be another testing package soon, but the next official release is a couple months away.

The lighting on indoor caves is just random, though I'd rather have more realism, with the light only coming from actual light sources like torches and sky holes (ooh and the lava too )

[goldenboy]

Lighting is good on the random maps.

The lighting on indoor caves is just random, though I'd rather have more realism, with the light only coming from actual light sources like torches and sky holes (ooh and the lava too )

You could have a number of pre-fabricated things such as the "flame cages" used in some episode 4 maps. These would give you crisscrossing shadows for free.

Another thing I can recommend for a role of fill lights (with torches /flames as main lights) is candles. Just rip the candle model from Scourge of Armagon(?). Requires a custom progs.dat though.

The light_globes can also be spread around areas such as caves and act as visible light sources. Or Quoth's march lights. Quake also often places lights around water. Another thing is to place main lights at passages between areas.

Pretty good for a randomly generated map!

[Spirit]

How does Oblige work? Is the generation based on formal grammar by any chance? Or some other "common" procedures?

[leileilol]

I have to redo all this makefile-win32 fixing stuff for oblige again D:

[andrewj]

Cheers goldenboy, good tips there. I never knew about the light_globe entity (and I though I knew most of the entities by now )

How does Oblige work? Is the generation based on formal grammar by any chance? Or some other "common" procedures?

The caves are generated with a cellular automata algorithm (not mine) on a 64x64 grid -- it produces an on/off result for each square (cave or open space).

Another algorithm divides the open space into connected "steps" (areas of the same height), then there is an algorithm to deform those squares (move the corner vertices) to get more interesting shapes.

OBLIGE itself works by allocating areas on a map for rooms, connecting them together (often with hallways), applying a quest structure (pick start room, lock certain doors), and then builds stuff in each room, places monsters and simulates the battle to determine what health and ammo to add.

[ajay]

Now I've made the move over to BSP2 for earthQuake, I'm back on track with the huge amount of mapping I've still to do. Firstly, the block of flats; which is currently just a shell and not a complete one at that. Secondly, blocking the whole play area with buildings, thirdly, finishing any non-complete buildings and finally, adding as much detail as possible (that's before gameplay/items/quakeC/bugs considerations). In addition I've got to fix the torch (which was DP specific) and the ladders (which were also DP specific).

[Chip]

Trying to find the perfect balance between soft shadows, hard shadows and spotlights.



Darkplaces and Q3Map2:

-light -filter -dirty -dark -dirtdepth 64 -dirtmode 1 -dirtscale 2 -deluxe -shade -samplesize 4 -lightmapsize 1024

and a value of 0.01 for lightmapscale in worldspawn. Insane, I know!

[goldenboy]

Pretty!